If you have just 1 fief and thier faction is big a strong, they may still want too much to join you. Hire mercenaries and try to expand your faction (creating fief-less lords by taking thier homes) will help you be more likely to get vassals" You can attack them directly and you can recruit them once they have survived 30 days an joined a normal faction. It's probably just a unnecessary complication allow war proposals against them when they're just temporary. u can't. I tried to attack them but I wasn't given an option. I had to leave my faction before I could attack them. 2: Power situation of thier faction versus yours. When their faction is ****'d and you're is okay, they are easier to get. The power is the field parties + garrisons (not militia), the more fiefs and clans (parties) your faction has the more attractive you are! 3: Thier relation to thier ruler and thier relation to you. Kevin_2101. • 2 yr. ago. All you get is a pop up saying something along the lines of "The empire has been defeated!", and the game goes on, no more main quests from there on out. Pretty anticlimactic honestly. The only real benefit to this is that it's the only way to completely eradicate some factions without resorting to execution. Any lords you recruit will convert to the rebels along with all their fiefs. If you take fiefs by force, however, they will have no owner. The claimant will then ask you who to distribute the fiefs to; you can give them to yourself, the claimant, or any of the lords currently on your side. The fief distribution list clearly shows how many fiefs Nobles of defeated factions usually still run around the map even when they're the only units in their respective parties, and since the game uses fog-or-war, it can be a bitch to find them, so you have to get lucky and have high spotting and tracking skills to find them quicker. Lords will eventually try to join one of the factions, and since I have the same problem with the northern empire. After reducing the faction to one city the AI declared peace. I know train to get to the point were I can defeat the enemy alone and hope that our enemies play with eachother. Actually I join there wars to get sure nobody wins. When you have all faction´s land and had capture all lord, they still on the game. If you placed them jail, they will flee at some point. So, you can´t defeat a faction. I mean, you can, but the game is not been planned for that. So, something wrong will happen if you do. Here is where loyal gamers won´t say: “dude, there is nothing to do. OXQqr0J.